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		<title>By: sandi</title>
		<link>http://blog.michaelnobbs.com/2009/06/01/still-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-2198</link>
		<dc:creator>sandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love your post Michael and Owen&#039;s note at end of thread here. One thought hit me however, maybe because I am &quot;older&quot; and been TRYING this for a long time ;-)
In being kind to yourself, remember it is a never ending pursuit and practice so don&#039;t overly fret... that saying &quot;one step forward and eight steps backwards&quot; is not meant to deter you, just help you to be kind to Self.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love your post Michael and Owen&#8217;s note at end of thread here. One thought hit me however, maybe because I am &#8220;older&#8221; and been TRYING this for a long time <img src='http://blog.michaelnobbs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
In being kind to yourself, remember it is a never ending pursuit and practice so don&#8217;t overly fret&#8230; that saying &#8220;one step forward and eight steps backwards&#8221; is not meant to deter you, just help you to be kind to Self.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://blog.michaelnobbs.com/2009/06/01/still-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-2197</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more. Embrace and accept who and where we are in our creative journey. I am in exactly that place myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. Embrace and accept who and where we are in our creative journey. I am in exactly that place myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://blog.michaelnobbs.com/2009/06/01/still-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-2192</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing exactly what I needed when I needed it.  I am finally taking time to do what I love doing but I am still struggling to find a routine and after working a day job it is difficult sometimes.  

It is good to know that other people have had similar battles.  I am looking to set myself a challenge to help with my routine but have not decided yet what that should be.  Still looking for suggestions.

Love your blog and will follow it which I am sure will inspire me more.

Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing exactly what I needed when I needed it.  I am finally taking time to do what I love doing but I am still struggling to find a routine and after working a day job it is difficult sometimes.  </p>
<p>It is good to know that other people have had similar battles.  I am looking to set myself a challenge to help with my routine but have not decided yet what that should be.  Still looking for suggestions.</p>
<p>Love your blog and will follow it which I am sure will inspire me more.</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: kit</title>
		<link>http://blog.michaelnobbs.com/2009/06/01/still-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-2190</link>
		<dc:creator>kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael - I&#039;m in the same boat actually, having weaned myself from 9-5 over the past several years, and now have the opportunity to pursue my artwork nearly &quot;full-time.&quot; It took me a couple of years to find my own rhythm in the studio, which varies depending upon where I am in my cycle of work (which is very process-heavy, as a textile artist.) I recently read (and am re-reading) probably the best book I&#039;ve ever read on creativity -- Fearless Creating by Eric Maisel. There are OODLES of helpful stuff in it -- e.g. he helps the reader learn to locate themselves within the creative process, discussing blocks of each stage etc. A couple of really helpful points that come to mind now are learning to &quot;shift gears&quot; quickly; &quot;hushing and holding&quot; when incubating an idea, and that most artists need to manage their anxiety. That last bit is really true for me. Sometimes as soon as I start work my anxiety is gone...but there are many other ways of managing it. Right now I am realizing I need to draw more -- the immediacy is something I need because of slow process, and want to incorporating drawing into my daily routine. I used to draw a lot in my youth but somehow got away from pure, purposeless (i.e. joyful) drawing. Your Twittering has really encouraged me to move on this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael &#8211; I&#8217;m in the same boat actually, having weaned myself from 9-5 over the past several years, and now have the opportunity to pursue my artwork nearly &#8220;full-time.&#8221; It took me a couple of years to find my own rhythm in the studio, which varies depending upon where I am in my cycle of work (which is very process-heavy, as a textile artist.) I recently read (and am re-reading) probably the best book I&#8217;ve ever read on creativity &#8212; Fearless Creating by Eric Maisel. There are OODLES of helpful stuff in it &#8212; e.g. he helps the reader learn to locate themselves within the creative process, discussing blocks of each stage etc. A couple of really helpful points that come to mind now are learning to &#8220;shift gears&#8221; quickly; &#8220;hushing and holding&#8221; when incubating an idea, and that most artists need to manage their anxiety. That last bit is really true for me. Sometimes as soon as I start work my anxiety is gone&#8230;but there are many other ways of managing it. Right now I am realizing I need to draw more &#8212; the immediacy is something I need because of slow process, and want to incorporating drawing into my daily routine. I used to draw a lot in my youth but somehow got away from pure, purposeless (i.e. joyful) drawing. Your Twittering has really encouraged me to move on this!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Bryenton</title>
		<link>http://blog.michaelnobbs.com/2009/06/01/still-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-2189</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Bryenton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m suggesting two books, both cheaply available, used, on Amazon, Michael, which offer a variety of relevant topics:

1) The Artist&#039;s Way 

and

2) What Colour Is Your Parachute?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m suggesting two books, both cheaply available, used, on Amazon, Michael, which offer a variety of relevant topics:</p>
<p>1) The Artist&#8217;s Way </p>
<p>and</p>
<p>2) What Colour Is Your Parachute?</p>
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		<title>By: josie</title>
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		<dc:creator>josie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kind to myself, and grateful for what I have and how far Iâ€™ve come.&quot; Indeed!  I should regularly remind myself of that, too.  I like how Jaclyn actually puts sleep on her to do list :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kind to myself, and grateful for what I have and how far Iâ€™ve come.&#8221; Indeed!  I should regularly remind myself of that, too.  I like how Jaclyn actually puts sleep on her to do list <img src='http://blog.michaelnobbs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: annie seaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>annie seaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael--I appreciate your thoughts and hearing your voice.  I&#039;m a Canadian/American &amp;  love your accent and the dialect. But that aside, My question has never been how to discipline myself to work in the studio but rather how do I not work on my creative pursuits and do the yucky stuff i.e: pay bills, keep up with dentist visits, service my car, exercise. All important stuff but I find it difficult to balance everything (especially being a mother too!) I always feel  desperate that when I sacrifice a day like this week and volunteer for my child&#039;s field trip to plant trees I am giving up work time. And i need a day to service my car and a morning to get my teeth cleaned!

I must force myself to be disciplined and NOT go to my studio on Mondays and attend to the business of life--which I dislike intensely.
Listening to you speak Michael I wonder if it is more difficult to keep a routine at a home studio. I work in a warehouse complex with other artists which is supportive. The best part however,  is I take my children to school at 7:55 am and get my coffee and go to my studio at 8:15am. when I arrive I am usually alone for a good two or three hours and have the place to myself so I do not have to be sensitive @ my radio or music, etc. and can just be creative. I love that!
have you read the book by artist , actor and playwrite Anna Deveare Smith, Letters to a Young Artist: Straight-up Advice on Making a Life in the Arts-For Actors, Performers, Writers, and Artists of Every Kind? It is so inspiring!!!
http://www.amazon.com/Letters-Young-Artist-Straight-up-Arts/dp/1400032385/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1243878568&amp;sr=8-4

She writes in the form of letters to a fictional artist giving advice through the guise of correspondences. It really inspired and helped me to move forward!
Best, Annie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael&#8211;I appreciate your thoughts and hearing your voice.  I&#8217;m a Canadian/American &amp;  love your accent and the dialect. But that aside, My question has never been how to discipline myself to work in the studio but rather how do I not work on my creative pursuits and do the yucky stuff i.e: pay bills, keep up with dentist visits, service my car, exercise. All important stuff but I find it difficult to balance everything (especially being a mother too!) I always feel  desperate that when I sacrifice a day like this week and volunteer for my child&#8217;s field trip to plant trees I am giving up work time. And i need a day to service my car and a morning to get my teeth cleaned!</p>
<p>I must force myself to be disciplined and NOT go to my studio on Mondays and attend to the business of life&#8211;which I dislike intensely.<br />
Listening to you speak Michael I wonder if it is more difficult to keep a routine at a home studio. I work in a warehouse complex with other artists which is supportive. The best part however,  is I take my children to school at 7:55 am and get my coffee and go to my studio at 8:15am. when I arrive I am usually alone for a good two or three hours and have the place to myself so I do not have to be sensitive @ my radio or music, etc. and can just be creative. I love that!<br />
have you read the book by artist , actor and playwrite Anna Deveare Smith, Letters to a Young Artist: Straight-up Advice on Making a Life in the Arts-For Actors, Performers, Writers, and Artists of Every Kind? It is so inspiring!!!<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Letters-Young-Artist-Straight-up-Arts/dp/1400032385/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1243878568&amp;sr=8-4" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Letters-Young-Artist-Straight-up-Arts/dp/1400032385/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1243878568&amp;sr=8-4</a></p>
<p>She writes in the form of letters to a fictional artist giving advice through the guise of correspondences. It really inspired and helped me to move forward!<br />
Best, Annie</p>
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		<title>By: jaclyn turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaclyn turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>isn&#039;t it interesting that we, as artists, have to remind ourselves to be kind...to ourselves. it&#039;s like putting sleep on a to-do list, (which i do often). 

good post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isn&#8217;t it interesting that we, as artists, have to remind ourselves to be kind&#8230;to ourselves. it&#8217;s like putting sleep on a to-do list, (which i do often). </p>
<p>good post</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Annie, that&#039;s an excellent discussion you&#039;ve got going on over on your blog. Lots of food for thought. I too have been reading Twyla Tharp&#039;s excellent book (I actually got it back today from a friend who I lent it to so think I shall have another browse through at bedtime tonight).

For me I think I&#039;m beginning to understand that creative routines and rituals are one thing (the things that get me out to me studio and ready to create) and a creative shape to my day is something else.

I certainly need the routines and rituals that start my creative process, which I think is what Twyla Tharp talks a lot about in her book, the creative shape  to my day (the things I do) is what I&#039;m really examining. It&#039;s good to at least see that, it&#039;s a place for me to start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Annie, that&#8217;s an excellent discussion you&#8217;ve got going on over on your blog. Lots of food for thought. I too have been reading Twyla Tharp&#8217;s excellent book (I actually got it back today from a friend who I lent it to so think I shall have another browse through at bedtime tonight).</p>
<p>For me I think I&#8217;m beginning to understand that creative routines and rituals are one thing (the things that get me out to me studio and ready to create) and a creative shape to my day is something else.</p>
<p>I certainly need the routines and rituals that start my creative process, which I think is what Twyla Tharp talks a lot about in her book, the creative shape  to my day (the things I do) is what I&#8217;m really examining. It&#8217;s good to at least see that, it&#8217;s a place for me to start.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Salness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie Salness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, I am on the same quest and wondering if I will ever &quot;arrive&quot; or if this is an ongoing and frequently changing journey that I have to continually readjust to. Because I have four kids and a husband, and I home school my two youngest kids, and they all involved in activities, and blah, blah blah....I find that I have to set time limits for my work in my studio. For two reasons: #1, I have to let me and my family know that I am &quot;going to work&quot; and don&#039;t disturb me unless you are bleeding....badly! #2 I need to make time for me to get work done whether I &quot;feel&quot; like it or not! . I have come to realize that I can&#039;t wait to &quot;feel&quot; like being creative or &quot;feel&quot; inspired. And since my studio is in my home, it is easy to let the busyness of everyday distract me from my work. However, that doesn&#039;t mean my creative mind shuts off when I leave the studio. It never shuts off! My friend and fabulous artist Mona Cordell 
( http://www.monajonescordell.com/ )takes a picture of her work 
when she leaves her studio and has it lying around so she can look at it and think about it when she&#039;s not at &quot;work&quot;. She sees it from a different perspective and with fresh eyes and can make notes on her copy and be ready to work the next time she returns to the studio. I blogged about reading Twyla Tharp&#039;s &quot;Creative Habit&quot; and asked for input from others and got many great responses that you might enjoy reading! 
http://anniesalness.blogspot.com/2009/02/what-is-your-creative-habit.html
Thank you for opening this dialog. I look forward to seeing other responses!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I am on the same quest and wondering if I will ever &#8220;arrive&#8221; or if this is an ongoing and frequently changing journey that I have to continually readjust to. Because I have four kids and a husband, and I home school my two youngest kids, and they all involved in activities, and blah, blah blah&#8230;.I find that I have to set time limits for my work in my studio. For two reasons: #1, I have to let me and my family know that I am &#8220;going to work&#8221; and don&#8217;t disturb me unless you are bleeding&#8230;.badly! #2 I need to make time for me to get work done whether I &#8220;feel&#8221; like it or not! . I have come to realize that I can&#8217;t wait to &#8220;feel&#8221; like being creative or &#8220;feel&#8221; inspired. And since my studio is in my home, it is easy to let the busyness of everyday distract me from my work. However, that doesn&#8217;t mean my creative mind shuts off when I leave the studio. It never shuts off! My friend and fabulous artist Mona Cordell<br />
( <a href="http://www.monajonescordell.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.monajonescordell.com/</a> )takes a picture of her work<br />
when she leaves her studio and has it lying around so she can look at it and think about it when she&#8217;s not at &#8220;work&#8221;. She sees it from a different perspective and with fresh eyes and can make notes on her copy and be ready to work the next time she returns to the studio. I blogged about reading Twyla Tharp&#8217;s &#8220;Creative Habit&#8221; and asked for input from others and got many great responses that you might enjoy reading!<br />
<a href="http://anniesalness.blogspot.com/2009/02/what-is-your-creative-habit.html" rel="nofollow">http://anniesalness.blogspot.com/2009/02/what-is-your-creative-habit.html</a><br />
Thank you for opening this dialog. I look forward to seeing other responses!</p>
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